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Neighbors Fear Sound Pollution, Traffic Jams, and Poor Jobs from Proposed Amphitheater in Childs Building

Residents: amphitheater will bring noise and traffic congestion to Coney

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Looks like getting Borough President Markowitz’s latest amphitheater plan built won’t be Childs play after all.

Coney residents blasted the Beep’s dreams of converting the landmarked Childs Building into a home for his summer concert series at a Sept. 17 hearing at Borough Hall, complaining that the plan will clog the streets and deafen neighbors, while doing nothing to uplift the depressed neighborhood.

Marty’s vision involves knocking a hole in the wall of the 90-year-old former restaurant on W. 21st Street, and installing a stage inside. The city-owned parcel next door would become a semi-circular seating bowl with a capacity of 5,100.

Designers said that the special tent covering the concert space would keep the volume of 40 summertime rock shows from disturbing the locals. But that claim was met with skepticism by members of the People’s Coalition of Coney Island.

“Nobody in creation can convince me that a fabric can control the noise that is going to permeate the entire area,” said Seagate resident Carol DeMartino.

Other group members argued that traffic headed to the amphitheater would strangle the streets — which are already strained from cars headed for the amusement parks and Cyclones games at MCU Park.

“We live on a peninsula! We’ve got a baseball field here, we got the rides there. How are we going to have 5,000 more seats?” said People’s Playground resident Sheila Smalls. “We won’t be able to get in and out of our own neighborho­od.”

Still others called for a written community benefits agreement — a contract guaranteeing well-paid, full-time, year-round jobs to residents, along with regular public access to the building, which will feature a high-end restaurant inside and on the roof. Members claimed that without such an agreement Coney Islanders would receive nothing but part-time, minimum-wage service jobs, and would never get to set foot inside of the new venue.

“When these kinds of constructions come up in communities like ours, we get taken advantage of,” said Ann Valdez, a lifelong Coney resident.

Earlier this year, the People’s Coalition of Coney Island controversially claimed the post-Sandy recovery efforts has unfairly focused on amusements at the expense of year-round residents

A spokesman for Markowitz present at the hearing declined to comment. But a representative for iStar Financial, the company that currently owns the Childs Building — and which has agreed to sell the structure to the city and transform it into the amphitheater for $50 million in taxpayer money — said that the project would be a huge boost to the local real estate market.

“We see this as an economic jumpstart to development,” said iStar attorney Howard Weiss.

Weiss noted that iStar — which will lease the amphitheater from the city and operate it at a profit until 2025 — owns 70 percent of the developable land nearby. The zoning laws the city passed in 2009 allow for those mostly vacant properties to become condos and residential towers.

Markowitz’s proposal will also convert the now-empty lots on either side of W. 22nd Street into a public greenspace with lush lawns, winding paths, gardens, playground equipment, privately run concessions, and seating areas.

The Zoning and Land Use committee of Coney Island’s Community Board 13 has asked the city to study the amphitheater’s potential impact on parking, and to investigate the possibility of a shuttle bus to the new facility. The neighborhood panel also asked for iStar to hire Coney residents to help build and run the concert space and restaurant.

This is not the first time that Marty’s dream of a permanent structure to house his seaside concerts has hit a sour note with locals. Markowitz tried — and failed — to construct an amphitheater inside Brighton Beach’s Asser Levy Park in 2009. Public protest blocked the structure — which was widely mocked for resembling a potato chip. And in April of this year, neighbors using the lot alongside the Childs Building as a community garden protested the Beep’s plan to plow under the fruits of their labor to construct amphitheater seating.

Markowitz pitched the Childs Building as the perfect spot to shelter his oceanside shows at his 2013 State of the Borough address in April.

Reach reporter Will Bredderman at wbredderman@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-4507. Follow him attwitter.com/WillBredderman.
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Pat from Coney says:
Now what does our Democratic nominee has to say about this? He must be in a tight space, since he got Marty's endorsement and support from Jobs for NY which spent half a million dollars electing him. and all the people fighting this proposal are the ones who supported him from the beginning not realizing he sold out to the special interests.
Sept. 19, 2013, 11:48 am
Sheila Smalls from Community activist says:
I would like to see a project that will benefit the community as well as others, be about a econiminc boost to our neighborhood. They are talking about 40 rock concerts, if you take a pole of rock concerts they are loud and not too many residents from Coney Island listen to rock, so who are you reaching out too" not the residents. I also am upset that the seaside concerts just didn't have a latino concert at all this past summer, so when you are in a diverse community, you must first ask them what they want. Bring a venue that will impact all in a positive way. Why do we need another stadium?, cause that's what it is, you can have concerts at the baseball field. We need a muti purpose large venue for our residents, that can accomidate our youth, venues like roller skating, that was there briefly, bolling, indoor tennis in door swimming, kick boxing, karate,zumba all theses things combined can be a treasure, for this neighbor hood bringing a venue that not are just for rockers, would be my idea of healing this broken community.
Sept. 19, 2013, 12:10 pm
Carl from West End says:
Sheila, they are bringing Rock Concerts to entertain those who are not "broke" like people are in Coney Island.

You said "We need a muti purpose large venue for our residents, that can accomidate our youth, venues like roller skating, that was there briefly, bolling, indoor tennis in door swimming, kick boxing, karate,zumba all theses things combined"

Who will pay for that, when people are broke?

gen·tri·fi·ca·tion - The restoration and upgrading of deteriorated urban property by middle-class or affluent people, often resulting in displacement of lower-income people.
Sept. 19, 2013, 12:31 pm
Carl from West End says:
Gentrification is a dynamic that emerges in poor urban areas when residential shifts, urban planning, and other phenomena affect the composition of a neighborhood to the point that the people who currently live there can no longer afford to do so.[1] Urban gentrification entails population migration as poor residents of a neighborhood are displaced. In a community undergoing gentrification, the average income increases and average family size decreases. This generally results in the displacement of the poorer, pre-gentrification residents, who are unable to pay increased rents, and property taxes, or afford real estate. Often old industrial buildings are converted to residences and shops. New businesses, which can afford increased commercial rent, cater to a more affluent base of consumers—further increasing the appeal to higher income migrants and decreasing the accessibility to the poor. Often, resident owners unable to pay the taxes are forced to sell their residences and move to a cheaper community.[2][3]
Political action, either to promote or oppose the gentrification, is often the community's response against unintended economic eviction.[4] However, local governments may favor gentrification because of the increased tax base associated with the new high-income residents, as well as other perceived benefits of moving poor people and rehabilitating deteriorated areas
Sept. 19, 2013, 12:32 pm
Bob from Gerritsen Beach says:
Carl, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say other than I know you have the ability to copy and paste. I'm all for any project that gets people out of their homes and into neighborhoods that provide entertainment. As far as the poor not being able to attend these concerts, they could do what I did when I was a kid and stand out side across the street and listen to the music for free. Gentrification is a double-edged sword. The good side could easily be seen in Brighton Beach. I remember a time when I wouldn't even drive my car through that neighborhood and now I see a bustling community with many owner operated stores. A very healthy sign of prosperity.
I also know a friend of mine who lives in Park Slope and bought a brownstone in the 70s for $35,000. It's currently valued at over a million and a half dollars and she can't afford to live there because of the rising prices for services, food and real estate taxes.
I'm for Marty's entertainment plan so build it and they will come.
Sept. 19, 2013, 4:22 pm
Pat from Coney says:
and look at this, coming fresh from CB13 all the fans and supporters of new member of the city council to be Mr. Treyger (from sunny Bergen Beach) are opposed to this project.. what will it be Mark? oh.. right almost forgot the boss twisted Markowitz to endorse your campaign, so it will be pay back time!

Ida Sanoff – community resident/activist. She is against this project.

Ana Valdez- community resident, member People’s Coalition of Coney Island. She is against this project.

Evangelian Puah- community resident. She is against the project.

Carol DeMartino-community resident. She is against the project.

Yuly Velednitsky - community resident. He is against the project.

Julia Daniely-community resident. She is against the project.

Seema McCrory-community resident. She is against the project.

Aida Leone-community resident. Director of Amethyst Women. She is against the project.

Yuriy Fendick-community resident. He is against the project.

Queenie Hueling-community resident/activist. She is against the project.

Tom Quinn- Amethyst Women’s Project. He is against the project.

AND THE KICKER IS:

Edwin Cosme-community resident/activist. Chairperson of People’s Coalition of Coney Island. He is AGAINST the project. He wants to make
sure that workers who are hired are from the community and will be hired at prevailing wage. (but you are against the project?)
Sept. 20, 2013, 1:23 pm
Ida Sanoff says:
Pat from Coney - first of all, if you weren't so blind with rage that Mark Treyger won and your boy didn't, you would have realized that although I had stated several concerns about this project, I never said that I opposed it or didn't oppose it. Also, if you weren't so focused on trying to crucify Mark Treyger before he was even elected to the City Council seat, you would have realized that at least one other person on your list said that "some people in Coney Island will probably want this project." But why let a little matter like the truth get in the way?
Sept. 20, 2013, 4:12 pm
ken jones from community organizer coneyisland says:
THE PROBLEM IN OUR COMMUNITY IS TO MUCH DIVISION AND DIVIDED LOYALTY BETWEEN THE PEOPLE AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ON ONE HAND YOU HAVE POLITITIONS WHO PRIORITY IS BIG BUSINESS NOT THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEM IN OFFICE.ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE SO CALLED LEADERS IN OUR WHO SUPPORT THEM.I THOUGHT THEY THE SOLUTIONS WORK FOR US.HAVE YOU AND WALK THRU THE WEST END OF CONEYISLAND AND SEEN THE DECAYING INFRASTRUCTURE FLOODING BAD AIR AND SO MANY OTHER PROMBLEMS.IT IS TIME TO COME TOGETHER AND DO THE GOO EitherD WORK THE PEOPLE.
Sept. 21, 2013, 9:51 am
sal from coney island says:
@Pat from Coney :

It seems to me that this Pat is on CB13 & is worried , almost paranoid that his days on numbered on the Recchia CB13 & is almost over.
I can assure those of you who are residents of Coney West that Mark Treyger will be a great councilman & have the interests of the Community at heart & what the Community wants & needs.
He's going to be a breath of fresh air for the Community, not special interests.
The last 12 years under the thumb of Recchia has left the Community devastated with many issue that will be dealt with by Mark Treyger.
He will have participorty budgeting. He will meet with the reisdents, He will have an open door policy for constituent services.
A total opposite to the Reccia regime!
Sept. 22, 2013, 12:51 pm
Pat from Coney says:
Sal, Ida and the rest of salivating cronies are in for a big surprise with MARK TREYGER FROM BERGEN BEACH, calling the shots here are the big boys from REBNY a.k.a JOBS4NY and certainly your very own Louise Jerome who paid off everyone in Coney to bow to Treyger from Bergen Beach. They spent over $500,000 YES OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS on Treyger. and you want him to serve people??? Coney West? he was scared to walk in those projects.. Jerome had to pay people to go in there..

Yes they own Treyger and don't even try to tell them otherwise, they will destroy you:

Watch for your self

http://www.ny1.com/content/politics/road_to_city_hall/189112/ny1-online--rebny-president-defends-jobs-for-new-york-attacks
Sept. 23, 2013, 9:53 am
Pat from Coney says:
Should add that people reading this should also "realize" As Mrs. Ida Sanoff says, that she was paid thousands of dollars by Mr. Treyger for her consulting work on his campaign, there is also an investigation going on, about Mr. Treyger overpaying for services rendered by blowing up the invoices for certain services, hence he took in over ninety thousand taxpayer dollars and didnt have a campaign to spend it on, since his masters spent over half a million dollars on him, so he used taxpayers money to take care of his friends.

Yes people talk and this is criminal. and correctly so he did not assume the office yet and already corrupted.
Sept. 23, 2013, 1:23 pm
Ida Sanoff says:
Know what Pat (or is your name really Todd or John, or maybe Jonathan??) You lost, Treyger won, get used to it.
Sept. 23, 2013, 3:53 pm
sal from coney island says:
@ Pat : You are a very angry , angry man . I think you should take an Anger Management Course. You need it !

If you were at the CB 13 last night you would have seen & heard the great support Mark Treyger had from all the different residents of Coney Island. From all the enthic groups that compose Coney Island.

Even the CB 13 Board Members are so scared of losing their seats on CB `13 , they voted down the proposed Marty Markowitz Amphitheater with an overwhelming majority vote. They finally grew a pair.

Pat you are just a very angry windbag & feel very threatend by a new regime & the power of the people that have given Treyger a vote of confidence as he takes over the reigns from Recchia who has single handily neglected the Coney West residence for over 12 years.
Sept. 24, 2013, 9:35 am
Pat from Coney says:
Ida, there is more coming! its not Todd, John or Jonathan, its Pat! And the truth will be told whether you like it or not, yes get used to it. You took the tax payers money for doing absolutely nothing and people will learn the truth.

Sal, " new regime & the power of the people that have given Treyger a vote of confidence as he takes over" - and the truth is yes the new regime is REBNY a.k.a JOBS4$NY pulling the strings on Treyger now you can sit back and watch the show. Do you think they are crazy spending $500,000 on the man? Do you think there is no return on investment?

And to suggest that CB13 members are scared to lose their seats and thats why they voted against the project is preposterous. They are the few that care to be on this board and the few who care about the community and are not for sale like the bunch of scum who sold out to the special interests who are now in full control.

Wait and see when the investigations will be completed. Surprise!
Sept. 24, 2013, Noon
Ida Sanoff says:
Again, Pat, (or whoever you are) here's the bottom line : Treyger won the primary. There is nothing you can do or say to change that. If he wins the general election, you're stuck with him for at least four years. Better get used to it.
Sept. 24, 2013, 1:27 pm
sal from coney island says:
@Pat.. You are one of the biggest BS artists I've have ever read on this blog.

I've notice on other blogs you name yourself Frank from Brooklyn.

I guess you have multi personalities.
Sept. 24, 2013, 2:09 pm
Pat from Coney says:
looks like I got your attention Ida and Sal

Treyger is nothing but a name tag. The next is the domino effect, this is what happens when you plug a young kid out of his dream job (school teacher) out of his dream home (Bergen beach waterfront) get the "party bosses" behind him and get the real estate industry to pay for your campaign a cool $500K (yes half a million dollars) , it is by far more damaging than any house of cards.

Ida, now you should be worried about those payments you and your husband took, see there is not much you can do now it is all public information and tempering with evidence just adds more time.. its tax payers money, its people's money. "Get used to it!" its the new regime.
Sept. 24, 2013, 2:22 pm
Ida Sanoff says:
Pat - Here's something else for the public record:

I am very, very, VERY proud to call Mark Treyger my friend. I have worked side by side with him for many years on a variety of issues. He has impressed me with his work ethic, his decency, his honesty and his integrity.

Case closed. Have a nice life :)
Sept. 24, 2013, 3:59 pm
Pat from Coney says:
Lets call it what it is friends with benefits at tax payers expense:

ON 9/11 day after the election Ida gets a bonus from camp Treyger with Tax Payers Money, clear violation of campaign finance laws, which state NO BONUSES

well and see the rest here

Sanoff Consulting Group, Inc. Brooklyn, NY 11223
Treyger, Mark
City Council (2013) 09/11/2013 $3,000.00

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Sanoff Consulting Group, Inc. Brooklyn, NY 11223
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Sanoff Consulting Group, Inc. Brooklyn, NY 11223
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Sanoff Consulting Group, Inc. Brooklyn, NY 11223
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Kings Highway Printers, Inc Brooklyn, NY 11223
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Sept. 25, 2013, 12:41 pm
Jeff Sanoff from Kings Highway Printers says:
Dear Pat,

Thank you so much for the free advertising.

I got several calls today from new clients who saw your posting and I am looking forward to working with them. My multi generational, Union printing business has been established almost 75 years and we have been doing political printing since 1941, for more candidates than I can remember. Many of these people probably won their elections as a result of our top notch, professional services.

If you did your fact checking correctly, you would have noticed that I did printing for some of the losers in this race too, including Lisyanskiy and Dobrin. All of this is public information.

I would like to thank you again for letting everyone know about my business and the fine work that we do. If you ever have any printing needs, I would be happy to service you.
Sept. 25, 2013, 9:27 pm
Pat from Coney says:
Dear Jeff,

It is good to know for future references to your potential clients that you call those who were unsuccessful "losers". That will certainly sit well with those thinking of using your services.

But this is not about that. It is about abusing tax payers money. It is about inflating the costs to line your pockets with tax payers money. It is about you and your wife billing candidate Treyger for services that were not rendered nor needed, since his campaign was and I quote the President of Real Estate Board of New York (REBNY aka JOBS4$NY) Professionally conducted by the highest professionals in the field. So Treyger could have returned the $90K tax payers money since the Real Estate boys spent over $500,000 thousand yes HALF A MILLION dollars on him.

So as your wife says "get used to it" the truth will be told.
Sept. 26, 2013, 11:24 am
Galina from Sheepshead bay says:
Mark is good guy,but he is big Puppet. He is going to do and say only what MR. Colton and other will tell him.
Only. He is not man of his world.
Sept. 27, 2013, 6:59 am
Galina from Sheepshead bay says:
Mark is good guy,but he is big Puppet. He is going to do and say only what MR. Colton and other will tell him.
Only. He is not man of his world.
Sept. 27, 2013, 6:59 am

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