Occupy Wall Street? For what?

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What are we fighting for? Don’t know — don’t give a damn— next stop is Wall Street? How we have changed. We used to protest against a war that we didn’t belong in— now we’re out there marching against the uber rich for being rich. And how effective it all is — squatting in Zuccotti Park with fancy tents, iPones, iPads, and wifi gadgets, getting lattes at Starbucks and shouting grievances to high-rise skyscrapers.


What I fail to get is why? No one has made any clear demands. Not one person has come forward and said “These are our demands; if you meet them we’ll stop protesting and get on with our lives.”

Instead, we have some vague ideas that the Occupy Wall Street protesters are annoyed that the uber rich are rich; they don’t like the fact that the banks received bail outs’; they’re not happy that there aren’t enough jobs; and apparently they want to be able to live in the park, make a mess, clean it up, and march up and down Broadway.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I just don’t get it. In fact last week, a reporter interviewed an “occupier” who’s been homeless since 1973 — but wasn’t that more than a few economic downturns ago?

I think that if you really want to get at Wall Street, just stop buying all those iPhones, iPads, Kindles, flat screen TVs, designer clothes, shoes, purses, furnishings, and, of course, coffee. For god’s sake, what’s wrong with a plain old cup of Joe in one of those blue cups that says “We’re happy to serve you.” Why does it have to be a $4 double grande, mocha chocolate latte from Starbucks?

Stop freaking buying. It isn’t necessary to have the latest, greatest anything. And if you don’t have the cash, you certainly shouldn’t use the plastic.

The banks have the money because we give it to them. It’s not only the bail outs, it’s the incredible amounts of cash that banks earn in fees and by buying and selling long, short and medium. All those ATM fees, mortgages fees, auto loans, personal loans, vacation loans, you name it and the bank will give you a loan for it — all at usurious interest rates that’s compounded daily.

Let’s face it, banks are worse than the loan sharks. But do we stop? No! We just keep on charging and paying the minimum.

The banks make it available, and we take advantage of it.

I really think we the consumers have to take a bit of responsibility for the banks having all that cash; we use credit cards for what we don’t need; we live above and beyond our means; we are the ones that desperately keep up with the Joneses, Smiths and Barneys, just so we can stockpile and cram stuff into our lives that are already over-stuffed enough.

Not for Nuthin, but the only way to stop the banks from stock piling our cash is for us to stop giving it to them. Protesting is okay for getting yourself in the papers, but the only way to get the point across is to hit them where it hurts — in the pockets.

Posted 12:00 am, October 19, 2011
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tom says:
you fail at google
Oct. 19, 2011, 5:20 am
Tommy says:
Not sure if serious... If this isn't a joke piece, please go educate yourself. You look like an idiot.
Oct. 19, 2011, 5:21 am
Darrin from Brooklyn says:
You seem to be actively avoiding the readily available answers to your questions. It is telling hat you choose to insult the protestors rather than attempting to disapprove their assertions.
Oct. 19, 2011, 5:47 am
Jess from Beyond NYC says:
For most of us who live beyond the cities where these protests are being held, we tend to go by what we see on the news. To us its beginning to seem like a colossal waste of time. Go take a shower, eat a hot meal at home, and then think of another way to stick it to "the man"that produces real results. I believe these folks have heart, just not so sure that they have figured out the most effective catalyst for change. Yet.
Oct. 19, 2011, 6:20 am
Db51 from Village says:
Jewish NYC 53 year old native new yorker of christ a few blocks from you wondering why you would want to sleep in pigeon park zucotti? If you don't feed the pigeons I will be there shortly to do so... Where were you years ago when we were warning you of this, to prevent this, now you have to face the tyrants at my door step, and though most of you dirty nut jobs are getting paid for this by the al c I a da, FBI, to inform, destroy freedom, kill innocents like at seal beach, or lambert ny, the list of your moloch, illuminati, mason, bloodsucking, worm, leech, maggot, Nazi, satanic feeding, war rituals, of your leaders, the Roosevelts, rockefellers, astors, fords, rothschilds, clintons, bushs, obamas, banksters, british lily white eu empire are well known throughout history...
Oct. 19, 2011, 6:55 am
Db51 from Village says:
By the way, Abraham Lincoln is a relative of mine, and both of my parents met in in the USA, after having escaped Nazi occupation, and hitler... The bible is warning of end times, you should be saved.
Oct. 19, 2011, 6:58 am
OWSFTW from florida says:
May I draw your attention here, dear author.

Stop pretending you don't get it. We all are very aware of your ——.
Oct. 19, 2011, 7:05 am
OWSFTW from florida says:
@Jess from Beyond NYC "For most of us who live beyond the cities where these protests are being held, we tend to go by what we see on the news."

These peoepl are paid to tell you , not inform. Stop watching the news and seek out info. You really consider what you see on the boob tube legitimate news? Seriously, still!??!?!
Oct. 19, 2011, 7:08 am
The Outlier from Earth says:
What is the demand? Nothing short of DEMOCRACY.
What is the action? Building a society that values each human being through an exemplar community that puts a premium on DEMOCRACY.
What is the Problem? The crony capitalism of Wall Street is corrupting the democracy of the United States of America.
The demand is reasonable. The complaint is valid, and the methodology is peaceful.
Let it grow!
Oct. 19, 2011, 7:24 am
John Q. from North Carolina says:
The answer is in the name, sir. Wall Street is its own closed economy. These people are "occupying" it, much like our army would occupy a foreign country. Secretary of State Clinton recently said global power would be expressed through economics, more than military. You could think of Wall Street as something of a rogue economic state, with economic power and rights, but no real responsibility to its host nation. How do we force these multinational corporations to engage in our economy, now that they have drained it?
Oct. 19, 2011, 7:33 am
Suzie from San Diego says:
I get what the protesters, and many Americans, are "fighting"for, however, I do not understand how these protests are honestly going to help. While there are obvious reforms and changes needed, it will take us the people making changes in our everyday lives to make them happen. If you are a protester you need to tell the people beyond the streets of lower Manhatten what they can do to make change actually happen. While speaking to those "in charge" is one way of getting heard, speaking to the common man and women might be more effective.
Oct. 19, 2011, 7:40 am
Db51 from Village says:
The nwo enjoys bashing, bloodying you to death, and Kelly, cuomo, Koch will see to it it gets carried out.
Oct. 19, 2011, 8:39 am
Db51 from Village says:
Thermonuclear devices buried under skyscrapers by law when they get old, they are set off like at chernobyl, and wtc, wtc and NYC still contaminated by depleted uranium, why would you want to be in NYC, or get close to wtc? Daily nuclear Firebombs set off in NYC, long island, on cars, houses, apts, houses of worship, small business's etc... For the British empire fed coffers, displacing, killing residents, calling the red cross, fdny, nypd, homeland security of the British crown not free America, or free planet earth, they are tyrants wanting to kill planet off, like they usually do as in asteroids. Would you like to see my great toenail still coming off, and trying to repair itself after 5 years of it trying to grow back from nuclear attack? Fat Nazis got no brains.
Oct. 19, 2011, 8:56 am
Db51 from Village says:
You of moloch were asked to leave our earthlings
Planet earth as we know you inhabit other planets, and have purposely destroyed our planet, causing needless suffering of our innocent people, it is now time for the earthlings the true inhabitants of earth to fight back against the invading Rockefeller, Roosevelt, British empire regime that always caused wars, death, and our loss of civilization. Satanists it is time to get on your bran son rockets and get the f off of our planet, go to yours, so we can repair it before it is too late.
Oct. 19, 2011, 9:03 am
Neil Friedman from Sheepshead Bay says:
Not for nuthin' but shame on you for not giving credit before stealing Country Joe McDonald's anti-Vietnam War lyrics in your opening graph.
Oct. 19, 2011, 11:40 pm
stanchaz from greenpoint says:
THANK YOU, Occupy Wall Street. Thank you for being out there FOR US - day after day, night after night , in the rain and cold and wind of a New York City autumn. Thank you OWS, for reminding us that people -ordinary working people- really do matter, and for helping open our eyes to what’s really going on in this country. Thank you OWS, for standing up for the workers, and for those looking for work, and for those that will graduate and find no work. Thank you OWS, for standing your ground, and for enduring senseless illegal beatings, while still maintaining your cool and your pride, and holding your head up high. Thank you OWS, for protecting and expanding our right to free speech and peaceable assembly. You, my friends, you are the true patriots. Thank you OWS, from all of us who can’t be there in person, from all of us who are working two and three jobs just to keep up, from all of us struggling to raise our children, or caring for our elderly, or just trying to live with some dignity.....while all the while the rich become richer and more powerful, at our expense. The 1% are running this economy. Indeed, they’re running it right into the ground - with their get rich schemes, and their tax evasions. Hell, if they don’t want to pay their fair share, then let’s call their bluff. Let them leave. ...cause they’ve already shipped their jobs overseas anyway. The REAL “mobs” are not the hardy souls of OWS - they are the public-be-damned Tea-publicans- who are blocking everything in Washington , trying to prevent Obama from doing his job. We may not be there physically with you OWS , but we are with you in spirit . You inspire and motivate us and strengthen us, and we’re damn PROUD OF YOU!
Oct. 20, 2011, 1:09 am
Db51 from Village says:
Hello, did a reality check at the occupy site Friday oct 21 2011, in the morning, took a few photos, videos, for a personal small movie I will work on, and found real people, with real concerns, some awake, some still sleeping under their tarps. A cold and windy day, I donated to the laundry fund. Watched as some protested around their perimeter, nypd closely following them. At one point a few old barricades blew over, and watched as cops stood them back up. My concern is if the occupiers of zucotti park can withstand the coming cold, blizzard winter.
Oct. 21, 2011, 7:16 pm
Db51 from It takes a village says:
Strangest op I've ever seen, before turkish van quake, a dozen or so Stalinist Turkish dancers flouting kerchiefs were seen in local park, clintons, and nwo really sick, watch out for haarp manmade earthquakes as the angel of death working for the British empire off with their heads, goes on a roll.
Oct. 24, 2011, 5:43 am
Db51 from It took a village says:
Black ops, black helicopters seen flying over lower manhattan air space from 5pm to 12am oct 25 2011, 50 police cars seen along with 25 military heavily armored nypd blocking streets, as only 100 or so occupy protesters made their way towards Washington square, total overkill, unnecessary operations, wasting time, and tax payer dollars. The Halloween parade, an innocent, fun parade enjoyed by over 2 million people here every year, tainted by these tyrannical, bloated, police state maneuvers.
Oct. 27, 2011, 6:56 am
Db51 from It's taking a village says:
O really of fox, next time you write a book on Lincoln, remember to ask one of his relatives for approval, instead donate to his poverty stricken relative at paypal address
Oct. 28, 2011, 11:26 pm
Db51 from Cousin it in the village says:
Halloween, Christmas costume tip at NYC clubs

When you go out to a club in NYC for halloween or christmas in a full costume and get carded make sure you laugh at the bouncers, doormen, when they say dat don't look like you...
Oct. 29, 2011, 7:38 am
Db51 from Take a village out says:
Two days before NYC Halloween parade and already barricades neatly lined along parade route in cold rain and snow. The queen of the Jews has left the building...
Oct. 29, 2011, 6:21 pm
Db51 from Taking a village says:
We db51 to donate
Nov. 2, 2011, 3:50 pm
Db51 from It took a village says:
We /X1axtnm/donate/115051 for db51 thank you
Nov. 2, 2011, 5:07 pm
Db51 from It took a village says:
Correction db51 www.we to donate we thank you your lincolns here well appreciated
Nov. 2, 2011, 5:10 pm
Db51 from It's taking a village says:
An upcoming fact finding mission on climate control, weather modification needs your help please donate to the above address thankyou
Nov. 2, 2011, 5:58 pm
Db51 from A village says:
99% military occupy
Nov. 3, 2011, 5:14 am
Db51 from To take a village says:
Enjoy your 24/7 aerosol chemtrail spraying, weather variations, sickness, since you do nothing to stop it
Nov. 4, 2011, 4:52 am
Db51 from Taking villages out says:
If you at occupy really care you would have already had a real homeless, poor, outreach center in NYC.
Nov. 4, 2011, 9:23 am
Db51 from Taking out villages says:
Who's villages do you think you are taking out... Abraham Lincoln
Nov. 6, 2011, 5:51 am
Db51 from In da village says:
Abraham lincolns global villages decimated by occupy military, demonic, satanic, Masonic, illuminati, moloch, money stolen from real people to destroy planet earth, obamageddon, not for nuthin...
Nov. 8, 2011, 6:11 am
Db51 from Villages says:
Occupy donations are now going to the new mta workforce of wall street occupiers who will gleefully donate their time to repairing the NYC subway systems, roofs, stairways, painting platforms, washing tiles, and tracks, installing new pipes, etc..
Nov. 8, 2011, 7:37 am
Db51 from The beanstalk village says:
Fee-fi-fo-fum I smell the blood of an Englishman
Be he alive or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread
Nov. 11, 2011, 1:50 pm
Db51 from A village says:
Occupy Oakland

Mayor Jean Quan

It's time for the encampment to end. Camping is a tactic, not a solution.
Nov. 13, 2011, 7:07 am
Db51 from Villages says:
This patriot American related to Abraham Lincoln was dissed when responding to a government job ad in a local newspaper in 1992 and sent a letter by mr Hamilton, thanking you, for not reinventing the federal government by not working for them.
Nov. 13, 2011, 1:29 pm
Db51 from Taking villages says:
Occupy with nothing better to do has taken it upon themselves to stick their noses into Jewish affairs by firebombing their neighborhoods through their alciada network of fat, bloated, fdny, nypd, gov Feds, FBI agents throwing hissyfits to blame innocent scapegoats for their sick ops as honest people listen to truth networks on the internet and find out who the real terrorists are, working for the nazi, british empire. Read a Tom Clancy book.
Nov. 13, 2011, 1:36 pm
Db51 from It takes a lot of nerve says:
Illegal, harmful, cancer, death causing, burning skin brown, radiation sickness, Nausea, vomiting, melting brains, and cracking skull transmitters, repeaters, on residential roofs all over tri-state NYC apts, by verizon, haarp, pentagon, military industrial complex, NASA, 24/7 chemtrail, geo engineering planes operation dumping nano metals, aluminum, barium, viruses, drugs, to make you sick, globally, spy clothes shops, eateries, drug stores, cameras and mics on streets, poison in air, food, water, vaccines that kill, meth and second hand smoke, never ending wars to wipe out innocent populations for greed, and power, and war games, not to save the earth, child sex kidnapping rings, by big corporations, blowing up everything in sight, taking out planes with directed energy weapons, microwaves, nuclear technology, lies, theft, deceit, of trillions, derivative phony
currency, blaming the little guy for all the worlds ills, blood lust of satanic new world order cult of a few thousand vampire masons who end the world.

death, destruction, a living nightmare of hell on earth end of world,
Nov. 14, 2011, 4:41 am
Db51 from It took alot of nerve says:
Floods, disease, slow death, famine, starvation, manmade earthquakes, unnecessary suffering, and death for the world, arrested development, artificial scarcity, planned obsolescence, supressed technology, most cities in the USA living in 1930s mentality with old infrastructure neglected, and in disrepair for years, military not in work program mode to repair USA or third world nations, but in death, bombing, kicking in doors, raping, stealing civilians homes and belongings for the headhunter regime of the rockefellers, Roosevelts, British order of death united nations policy.
Nov. 14, 2011, 4:51 am
Db51 from Taking villages, villagers says:
Afghanistan, Mexican phony drug wars, for profit, terrorizing the world, mainstream media supporting lies, and crony capitalism, unnecessary global military, occupations, and occupying tents around the world, and it's people that do not address the aforementioned issues and problems.
Nov. 14, 2011, 5:19 am
Db51 from A village says:
By the way my working career in the NYC area began in 1981 and still continues to this day, my 3 paged resume of accomplishments at now 53 years of age documents my trials, tribulations, work ethic I held for so long. Truth, liberty, justice for all, freedom, private property, privacy rights, limited government, and lending a helping hand whenever I could, kept me going and alive, but not rich. In the 1980s a news week article ran on how a half a million women could not get work and survive in NYC at that time. It does not surprise me. When there is wrong, right it. Where there is bad replace it with good. Goodbye.
Nov. 14, 2011, 1:11 pm
Db51 from Abes village says:
Spielberg, did you consult this relative of abraham Lincoln before starting your movie on him?
Dec. 2, 2011, 6:06 am
Db51 from Occupied villages says:
Vatican retilian occupy assasins need to move their operations next to the car wash lot down the block from duarte trinity, a much better cleaner space
in the fenced in neglected weed lot where a gas station once stood, there, they can do the do, get washed and have a shampoo, and even buy a x-mas tree, or have fun staying in your bosses st James hotel, where the moon dance diner was that Cheney moved to Wyoming, or partying at the very upscale bars you have built only for your yuppie selves, as the neighbors down the block want you to stay there, and are not very friendly elsewhere, as you have closed and eliminated over 20 of our small delis, and supermarkets over the years, and you will have to feed yourselves somehow, as there is little food in the area, and as you and your fat riot cops are not welcome in our village neighborhood.
Dec. 17, 2011, 2:45 pm
Db51 from Occupied villagers says:
Oh, by the way folks, just across the river behind duartes square, you can see the occupiers bosses headquarters in jersey city, that funds a lot of their operations, the gold man sachs building.
Dec. 17, 2011, 2:54 pm
Db51 from Duarte walmart village says:
Oh I know, you occupiers are saving the space at duarte and canal st, for the new walmart, that you are also planning in Harlem with Desmond tutu at 125 st and Lenox, now I get it...
Dec. 17, 2011, 3:32 pm
Db51 from Hungry villages says:
Let me guess, the stock of food, goods, supplies, taken from all of the burned down, closed, shuttered small business owner delis, supermarkets, shopping centers, apts, homes, around the globe have been pilfered for government employees, and their fantasy, tyrannical, evil world of civilian internment camps.
Dec. 17, 2011, 3:57 pm
Db51 from Villages end says:
The end looks like this

Intentionally Starved, maimed, biowarfared death of worlds population

Neocons global dream of worldwide war machine wars

Total nuclear obliteration of planet earth
Dec. 17, 2011, 4:17 pm
Db51 from Villagers watching says:
Cumberg and blomo need to find a suitable place for their mock protests, arrests, and staged occupy goldman sachs op events preferably at Desmond tutus lot at Lenox and 125 st Harlem and not in lower manhattan.
Dec. 18, 2011, 7:26 am
Db51 from Halloween village demons says:
Over the years a once fun local artistic Halloween parade in NYC Greenwich village has been co-opted bt Howard dean into a politicized, nasty, vampire, reptilian, trinity Vatican assassin event that has bred it's evil corporate wings allowing the farse of real protests so tyrannical government officials can stage mock arrests, havoc, chaos, with tax payer dollars that the British empire has no respect for and the American people.
Dec. 18, 2011, 7:41 am
Db51 from Occupy 125 st Lenox now! says:
Occupy 125 st Lenox now!
Occupy 125 st Lenox now!
Occupy 125 st Lenox now!
Occupy 125 st Lenox now!
Dec. 18, 2011, 7:44 am
Db51 from Occupy no walmart says:
Occupy no walmart at 125 st Lenox, take the 2 or 3 train to 125 st NYC Harlem great space for mock protests, arrests, and detention.
Dec. 18, 2011, 8:05 am
Db51 from Nwo globalists says:
New world order globalists co opting protest movements to cause havoc, and instigate real issues they cause, they bring lice, vermin, disease, dirt, maggots, leeches, chaos, stupidity, idiocy, to a once peaceful place. The British tyrants and their worldwide military of fat, stupid, brainwashed legions of baton wielding brainless rats are being used worldwide against the innocent populations wanting real reforms, putting you back in the dark ages, as serfs, slaves, in tents without sanitation, so why go along with this madness, go back to your j p Morgan homes, and stop jumping on to other peoples trains, if you cannot address real issues, Fu co opting web sites, sorors, brezinski, and kissenger and their putrid war mongering bosses who end the world.
Dec. 18, 2011, 9:08 am
Db51 from A village says:
Histories unelected self appointed cowardly tyrants

Throughout history the British empire and their bankster money changer cronies have systematically killed off their competition to create what we have today, monopolies of corporate greed, and death, that benefit only those few controlling it. People never had a chance at real elections, as they never really had real candidates by and for the people elected by and for the people. Desperate phony occupiers paid off by the same fat cats they protest and detest are sent to mock demonstrations where they are arrested and detained by their global tyrants military police forces without thought or viable outcome. The current system must run itself out before any real change. As the self appointed government continues to control every aspect of life, like maggots and leeches, with their 24/7 bombardment of biowarfare chemtrails overhead, and other toxins they give us in food, water, and air it seems dire for the human races continuance. War toys, war machines, wars, rumors of wars abound, and those contaminated du heroes sent to kill off most of iraqs population are now preparing for more death here and elsewhere. The plan is working, all civilians dead and dying so neocons can have fun with their trillions of war games until this planet is nuked and gone.
Dec. 19, 2011, 6:14 am
Db51 from Village says:
In a sign of peace USA sends Abraham Lincoln off Iran waters
Jan. 20, 2012, 2:54 pm
Db51 from Wiped out villages says:
In a sign of peace USA retires uss Abraham Lincoln as it leaves Iran and docks in NYC and becomes tourist attraction like the intrepid.
Jan. 23, 2012, 6:01 am
Db51 from No alinsky villages says:
Alinsky died in 1972 and his bad practices should have died with him.
Jan. 23, 2012, 6:17 am
Db51 from Village cons says:
Con jobs
Jan. 23, 2012, 6:20 am
Db51 from Peace village says:
Peace does not mean war
Jan. 29, 2012, 6:38 am
Db51 from Israelvillage says:
Mother sabra born in Israel late 30s, visited Israel 3 months saw army, they do not have the capacity to attack anyone unless scapegoated. Israel a broken country afters years of it's own leaders attacking itself, maiming, killing it's population, and they now have the strength to attack?
Feb. 3, 2012, 7:14 am
Db51 from Canalvillage says:
Bloom berg boasts how he has his own army, directed energy weapons used on tourist helicopters, foley square vendor firebombing attacks not to forget the daily fire assaults throughout the USA on the general populations wtc, homes, apts, cars, boats, roofs, sheds, barns, basements, businesses, where the mo is to call the red cross for evacuations, after innocents slaughtered and displaced. Why doesn't bloom berg use his nypd, fdny armies against Iran instead of new yorkers?
Feb. 3, 2012, 7:20 am
Db51 from Familyvillage says:
Planned parenthood, this hood, a eugenics de population organization against humanity.
Feb. 3, 2012, 7:57 am
Db51 from Warmvillage says:
Warm village
Feb. 3, 2012, 8 am
Db51 from Analysisvillage says:
This certified clinical hypnotherapist after careful analysis has determined that the mayor and governor are currently psychologically unfit to serve. Cuomo has serious issues with the love his father had of the people of ny, and his jealousy is exhibited in his hate for the 60 or so public schools he is closing, the recent death of a developmentally disabled school teacher in astoria, his reprimands of school teachers, mowing down of pedestrians. Bloom bergs emperor has no clothes syndrome, has left the city with a dilapidated subway infrastructure, as he could care less about the welfare of poor civilian populations that he should care about and not come and go tourists, daily fires, with no investigations, the lists go on and on...
Feb. 4, 2012, 8:05 am
Db51 from Villagesplanets says:
We the free earthlings of planet earth are aware that you inhabit other galaxies, and planets, and have come to our planet to invade, and trash this one. As this is our only planet why don't you just leave what's left of this one alone and take off to the other planets before you annihilate this one, as you have no plans in the future for earthlings to inhabit other planets, but only tyranny, starvation, death, and destruction in this world.
Feb. 5, 2012, 5:42 am
Db51 from Scapegoatedvillages says:
Feb. 5, 2012, 5:44 am
Db51 from Villagetruth says:
The white supremist catholic church, British empire pays for all sides, in the conflict they create with wars and protests, this time around, using their favorite waddling duck and banners squawking endlessly as the need arises, quack, quack, quack... Boring, lol...
Feb. 5, 2012, 5:52 am
Db51 from Giantsbeanstalkvillage says:
Giants beanstalk village
Feb. 6, 2012, 5:45 am

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